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    <p>A fair bit of this was discussed in 2004.  (You have to dig a
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/08/2020 00:26, Richard Pullin
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      <div dir="ltr">This is really interesting and useful, thanks for
        sharing.
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        <div>As the alternating group on 5 is isomorphic to Hudson's
          group, it would be interesting to see which of these blocks
          can be turned into Hudson type components for Minor methods
          and principles. For example, the Doubles six: 3.1.3.1.3.1 can
          be replaced by 34.1.34.1.34.1 in Minor, which is a very
          easy-to-see demonstration of the (123) cycles being replaced
          by (123)(456) cycles. I'm sure the idea of using A_5 in this
          way will have occurred to others, but they may have been put
          off by the tendency of 3/4-blow places in the resulting Minor
          methods.</div>
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        <div>If you arbitrarily try this on a bobbed lead of Grandsire
          Doubles, one result is: 34.1.5.1.34.1,2 (which perhaps closer
          resembles Double Grandsire Doubles with bobs at the half lead
          and lead end.) The method's plain course is Hudson's group, so
          the trick has worked. As the half lead rows are the same as in
          Cambridge S and Oxford TB, you can get a number of variants by
          replacing the half lead with 5 and/or the lead head with 1. I
          was then reminded that one of these variants had already been
          devised a few months ago by the mathematician Robert A Wilson
          (though his method has the tenor as hunt bell, so I rotated
          it.)</div>
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        <div>We can go a step further and turn this into a challenging
          Principle with 360 changes in the plain course, though some
          might prefer to think of it as a variable-treble touch of the
          Plain method: </div>
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href="https://complib.org/method/39339?accessKey=b9d3f9ca822c8bd08bdc2248ec151b4e5c89b0"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://complib.org/method/39339?accessKey=b9d3f9ca822c8bd08bdc2248ec151b4e5c89b0</a></span> For
          a 720 you simply use two singles a course apart:</div>
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style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Open
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href="https://complib.org/composition/70150?accessKey=4222c763a30983fab67f274873ab5552ffe14201"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://complib.org/composition/70150?accessKey=4222c763a30983fab67f274873ab5552ffe14201</a></span></div>
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        <div>I love how this extent is analogous to a 2-single 120 of
          Stedman Doubles, which brings us right back to the original
          topic of A_5.<br>
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        <div>So what else can be done with the Doubles blocks?   </div>
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